Comments on: WebWork Doc-a-Day; Struts Really Sucks

By: iterative

iterative — Wed, 14 Jun 2006 13:09:26 +0000

Why do (or did) so many people use Struts even though it sucks? Here's the answer: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Information_cascade

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Fri, 22 Apr 2005 00:55:09 +0000

The struts devs never saw the light…:-)

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Sat, 14 Aug 2004 12:31:03 +0000

Struts sucks because the underlying technology (JSP) is just plain stupid for any web application

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Sat, 14 Aug 2004 12:30:18 +0000

JSP sucks because the underlying technology (JSP) is just plain stupid for any web application

By: Tech-Weblog by Christoph C. Cemper

Tech-Weblog by Christoph C. Cemper — Sat, 27 Dec 2003 03:25:08 +0000

Struts Enabler Tools

If you are interested in more Struts-enablers checkout the German Java Magazin article or the google-translated article describing the tools: Struts Console (free, but not open source) Struts Builder (open source) Easy Struts (open source) Improve Stru…

By: Tech-Weblog by Christoph C. Cemper

Tech-Weblog by Christoph C. Cemper — Sat, 27 Dec 2003 03:21:52 +0000

Struts Enabler Tools

By: Jason Carreira

Jason Carreira — Mon, 03 Nov 2003 18:58:06 +0000

The ClientDispatcher may be a little sucky, but at least you have the OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE ONE. You can’t do this with Struts because of the horrible dependence on HttpServlet*…

I know some people have used the ClientDispatcher successfully… maybe you should try asking the list and people could help you with your issues?

By: Another Anonymous Coward

Another Anonymous Coward — Mon, 03 Nov 2003 18:01:28 +0000

Sorry, but have you seen your own framework carefully? Do you really want someone posting each and every HUMONGOUS design fault in webwork?

I am trying to use your Swing-to-server channel via http (ClientRequest or something like that). Man, it’s unusable. I will have to recode a clean one from scratch. Faulty and not real-world ready.

Do you really think that starting a column for bitching against other framework is a good idea? Even McFleury gave up on that attitude.

Keep your own house clean and to the fuck with the others.

By: Matt P

Matt P — Mon, 03 Nov 2003 17:07:42 +0000

Thats a small tid bit. We need the whole struts vs. Webwork document(with examples). Then we might “get it”. I know your working on it. With everything laid out, I believe the argument would be more compeling.

People “worked hard” to learn struts. Now you tell them it sucks, however, they don’t really “know” your system and exactly where your coming from. Of course people are going to defend what they know.

Matt

By: Matthew Porter

Matthew Porter — Mon, 03 Nov 2003 16:58:59 +0000

No One:
This is a horrible argument for the use of Struts over WebWork. Do I need to whip out the old saying- “If everyone else jumped off the bridge, would you?” Patrick documented a benefit of WW2 over Struts and this is your rebuttal, instead of examining some way to improve Struts. I am glad it works for you.
Furthermore, if everyone used your logic, then we would be stuck doing C,C++, or assembly. Hey, IBM and other big companies do work in C++, so there was no need for Java.
This is not meant as a personal attack on you just your argument. Instead of posting silly comments like yours, go improve Struts so this isn’t true anymore.

Cheers,
matthe